The LCPII outshot the “Walther” PPK in every way. When you insert a fresh magazine, it will be easier to rack the slide this way as well. A small laser also would be a good add-on, and there is a factory model fitted with a Viridian laser if you can find one. The .380 ACP semi-automatic pistol is one of the most popular categories of concealed carry weapons in the United States and has been for years. After the precision shooting, I fired full magazines as fast as I could at the headbox of an IPSC target at 3, 5, 10, 15, and 20 yards for a total of 50 rounds. The new magazine locks the slide back when empty. Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc. is one of the nation's leading manufacturers of rugged, reliable firearms for the commercial sporting market. Don’t pocket carry without one. Around 40 rounds into the test, I experienced both an FTC and then an FTE a few rounds apart. Malfunction which occurred when the fabric of my glove got caught in the trigger shelf. This happens every time I run a mag through it. Of the five .380 pistols that I have extensively shot, the LCP stands head and shoulders above them all. Overall, the trigger on the LCP II makes it infinitely easier to shoot than the original LCP. Let’s find out by comparing it to the original LCP. Member; Posts: 46; Re: Ruger LCP 2 « Reply #50 on: May 10, 2019, 04:04:36 pm » Finally got to the range with my M&P put 150 rounds thru it and no problems. The original Ruger LCP has been perhaps the most well-known and popular .380 pocket pistol since it was f For comparison’s sake, I fired the LCP II alongside an LCP and a “Walther” (S&W-era) PPK. Grip length remains about the same-I could get about one and a half of my sausage fingers on the grip without the flush fit magazine, and two with. Ruger LCP Custom. Every one of these pistols are incredibly easy to conceal in your pocket. A long time ago in a desert not so far away. The included pocket holster for the LCPII. Dec 04, 2019. In 2018, I wrote a eulogy to honor the passing of … The slightly wider grip (.898″ vs .775″ for the LCP)and slightly more aggressive texture on the sides and backstrap didn’t seem like a huge deal when holding them side by side. These flaws include, but are not limited to: .380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. Ruger was not content to rest on their laurels with the success of the LCP and has continued to improve the pistol. These do not have the outer flap of the DeSantis Super Fly that makes the gun print like a wallet, but they are perfectly functional pocket holsters right out of the box. All results are 6 shot groups (a full magazine) measured edge to edge with the subtraction of bullet diameter. The LCP II also features forward and rear serrations on the slide, whereas the original LCP only featured serrations on the rear. Ruger listened to the criticism, which resulted in the birth of the LCP II. Ruger sells the LCP II with a neoprene pocket holster (which has the Ruger logo on it), and it actually works quite well. But if carry options are limited to just a pocket carry for you (i.e. Examples of popular small pocket .380 autos include the original Ruger LCP, Taurus TCP, Smith & Wesson Bodyguard .380, and the Kel-Tec P3-AT to name a few. Ruger LCP 2 (22LR) Extra Power Recoil Spring - 22LR Model Only Ruger LCP 22 Recoil Spring is 10% Stronger than factory recoil spring. It seemed to prefer the lighter JHP bullets to the FMJs, which is a good thing for a self-defense pistol. First off the original is a true double action trigger with each shot. The LCP2 locks back on the last round, as long as lcp2 mags are used. The Ruger LCP has a steel slide while the frame, built from fiberglass reinforced nylon, helps to further lower overall weight of this small hand gun that only weighs approximately 270 grams. I’ve owned the original lcp, and compared to the lcp2. It is considerably lighter and smoother than the original LCP and other comparable .380 pistols, and it also features the Glock-style bladed safety that must first be depressed in order for the trigger to be pulled. This article by Alex Joseph originally appeared at Gun News Daily in 2019. Posted January 15, 2019 in Pistols, Reviews, Semi-Auto by Rusty S. with No CommentsTags: .380 ACP, LCP, LCP 2, LCP II, ruger. How reliable is it? Liking the LCP very much, but I did want the improvements of the LCP II. It is lightweight, but does an admirable job of controlling recoil given its size. With a much lighter trigger, enhanced slide serrations, wider grip, impressive stippling job, and the ability to slide lock on the last round, the LCP II is a definitive improvement over other comparable .380 pocket guns. Not only did I come away assured of the LCP II’s reliability, but also impressed at the redesign and improved ergonomics. Only one round was a “miss”. The barrel is 2.75 inches, magazine capacity is 6, sights are fixed, and while Ruger doesn't list the trigger pull weight on its web site, the trigger is comparable in feel to the Kel Tec P3AT. Granted, .380 pocket autos are not guns that you take to the range for fun. The mag. 10+1 $ 369.00 (22) Ruger 90644 Ruger LCPII 380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) 6 rd Bl $ 37.19. It’s not a range gun, and should not be treated as such. As far as firepower is concerned, I was impressed with the performance of the Grizzly +P+ ammunition, which achieved 1185 fps at the muzzle out of the 2.75″ barrel! Ruger sought out to remedy much of these problems with the LCP II. L: magazine follower for the LCPIIR: follower for the LCP. Accuracy was impressive for such a little gun. While larger .380 pistols such as the Walther PPK/S, Walther PK380, Bersa Thunder 380, and Glock 42 don’t have this problem, the truly small pocket pistols such as the LCP and TCP most certainly do. Ruger has fit a lot of quality in a small and inexpensive package. I would also recommend Ruger's Extended 7 rd magazine, besides having more capacity it really improves the grip. For their .380 mouse gun version 2.0, Ruger widened the featherweight glass-filled nylon frame by 1/8″. In other words, it’s not pleasant to shot at all. This pistol took it all and did not fail in any way. I decided to acquire one when I had saved up enough. This trigger only has to release the pre-cocked hammer. As a back-up weapon to a larger pistol, the LCP II would also be a great choice as it has a very similar manual of arms to larger pistols such as Glocks while also being small enough to easily conceal carry as we have just seen. But you need a pocket holster, period. The slide is easy to rack, and the one provided magazine seated and ejected positively. I tested the LCP II for accuracy by firing offhand at 5 and 10 yards. In this review, we will cover the disadvantages of the .380 pistol that the LCP II sought to remedy, what makes the LCP II an improvement over the original LCP, and the uses for and specifications of the LCP II. I remember the first time I saw a Ruger LCP in person. 2. The sights, though just a bit bigger than those on the LCP, definitely aided in acquiring and re-acquiring a sight picture faster. I have heard of others having the same problem. The original Gen 1’s had a dash in the serial number like 123-45678. One more note on magazines: Original 6 round LCP magazines will function just fine in the LCP II, but not the 7 round extended mags for the old LCP. TFB Review: The New Ruger LCP II 22 LR. This is always a nice advantage to have for the purposes of reloading with alacrity. Having always had a passion for firearms, Rusty S. has had experience in gunsmithing, firearms retail, hunting, competitive shooting, range construction, as an IDPA certified range safety officer and a certified instructor. The dash was removed in the Gen 2 numbers app… Most of the problems with the LCP's were just nonsense problems that did not have to be. you have to wear shorts with a tucked in shirt), the LCP II will be a great option. With more than 1.5 million examples in circulation, the diminutive LCP is Ruger’s most popular centerfire pistol, and with that kind of commercial success, the decision to launch a new version cannot have been taken lightly. There is an aluminum chassis in which the trigger parts are assembled. Jr. For more than 70 years, Ruger has been a model of corporate and community responsibility. Even when empty they are hard to seat and 2 require a slap from the palm of my hand. -Maintains reliable slide lock when empty function. It was at Gunsite’s pro shop in the spring of 2008. No more such malfunctions occurred. Though they first modified the main shortcomings with the LCP “pro” edition in 2015, a year later Ruger completely updated those exact two areas with the LCP II. Photos by Kenda Lenseigne. I very much follow the same philosophy my buddy Travis outlines in his gray man article. More. The original Ruger LCP has been perhaps the most well-known and popular .380 pocket pistol since it was first introduced in 2008. Here are some basic facts for the Ruger LCP II: In conclusion, the Ruger LCP II simply represents the beginning of the evolution of the .380 pocket pistol. Did they succeed? Let’s face the facts on the Ruger LCP and the LCP II . The barrels are similar though differently finished, guide rods, and springs are the same, Frames with hammers in position for trigger pull (cocked for the LCP II, half-cocked for the LCP). Last but not least, and while this is entirely personal preference, many regard .380 autos as having poor ergonomics due to the fact that their extraordinarily small size means you can’t get a full grip on them. My wife has an LCP 2 with occasional feed problems. that came with the gun is pretty good, but the other 3 Ruger made in USA mags are problematic. There are two primary uses for the LCP II: concealed carry and/or as a back-up pistol. I love the little gun, and am happy with it, except for a couple issues: 1. The most common way to tell the Gen 1 and Gen 2 pistols apart from one another is the serial number. Shooting while gloved may cause malfunction. It was only at the range where the keys to this difference became apparent. © Copyright 2021 Center for the National Interest All Rights Reserved. But the LCP’s still a really small gun: just 5.17 inches long and 3.71 inches tall.. As you can kinda tell from the picture above (courtesy m4carbine.net), the LCP II is smaller than its direct competitor, the GLOCK 42, in every dimension (height, width and length). While the LCP II is still a small pocket pistol, Ruger made a number of improvements to it. The trigger pull on most .380 autos is exceptionally long and gritty. by B. Gil Horman - Monday, December 30, 2019. He has received military, law enforcement, and private training in the use of firearms. The first thing I noticed when opening up the cardboard box the LCP II ships in was not the firearm itself, but the holster-a very nice touch by Ruger. Ruger LCP 2 « previous next » Print; Pages: 1 2 [3] Author Topic: Ruger LCP 2 (Read 3848 times) tlolesen. Therefore, it features a far crisper break, shorter pull, and shorter reset compared to the LCP. The redesigned trigger was the big factor in getting all 19 rounds on target. I got a chance to handle and shoot some LCP II models at various industry events. Ruger Updates its Most Popular Pistol and Adds a Compact to the American Line. Better built than the P-3AT, it won me over and became part of my regular hot weather carry rotation. The only ammunition that did not perform very well was Magtech. It seems to run a little better with good ammo, but still has the occasional problem. Free FedEx Option* The magazines also dropped free each and every time I hit the mag release, and never when I didn’t want them to. Ejects the 5th round, then jams the 6th round, trapping it between the feed ramp and the slide coming forward. But despite those advantages, .380 pocket pistols have also been plagued by a number of downsides. WHAT ARE THE DISADVANTAGES OF THE .380 POCKET PISTOL? That it performs so much better than a much larger and heavier pistol like the PPK is a testament to its excellent design. All of these features together, the improved trigger, the enhanced serrations, the stippling on the grip, and the slightly wider grip size all combine to make the LCP II a better handgun to shoot than the original LCP. If you are in the market for a backup piece, deep concealment pistol,  or a gun that you can carry easily while wearing PT shorts, give the LCP II a try! Ruger LCP II MagGuts™-High Capacity Magazine Conversion Converts your 6 round Ruger LCP II .380 caliber magazine into a 7 round magazine without extension. Fortunately, it didn’t take long, as the LCP II costs less than most cases of rifle ammunition. Just picked up a Ruger LCP 2 last night and Ruger has definitely made changes to the trigger. Just my observation.... may or may not be true. I discovered this was due to the cloth on the finger of my light glove getting caught on a shelf of the trigger above the trigger bow. This only naturally makes it more difficult to fire properly like we just talked about. .380 pocket pistols are incredibly easy to conceal, and this is what is largely attributed to their long time popularity in the United States. I know Ruger will fix it, but it's a known issue for many years and it's still a problem. The only upgrade that I would recommend is replacing the original takedown pin with the Tandemkross Tool-less Takedown pin. Cracked Grips, split rails, cheap take down pins etc. Ruger sells the LCP II with a neoprene pocket holster (which has the Ruger logo on it), and it actually works quite well. Ruger markets the trigger as having a six pound pull. Every round of that initial string impacted the target. It’s easy to see why: .380 pistols are typically small enough to carry in the pocket, they are unquestionably smaller and lighter than competing 9mm single stack autos or .38 snubnose revolvers. So I bought a new Ruger LCP II a while back. It covers the trigger guard of the pistol and has a hook and sticky material to stay secure in your pocket so it is easy to draw the pistol from your pocket without bringing the holster with it. Yet one more advantage for the LCP II is the fact that the slide locks back on the final round fired to signal you are empty. LCPII Trigger. A DeSantis IWB holster for the LCP, which also fits the LCPII. The only people tha… I've had a LCPII for 2 years and carry it almost daily. 500 rounds should be a minimum assessment period for something you would stake your life on, but 750 or 1000 is even better. Fix for common Ruger LCP 22 Problems with FTF malfunctions. This pocket pistol is very easy to employ with a great degree of practical accuracy. So, all my fellow Southerners should understand my desire for a small, lightweight carry gun that can easily be hidden away under a t-shirt. SUBSCRIBE. The trigger guard on the LCP has also been enlarged in order to accommodate a gloved finger without risking pulling the trigger. Also of importance is the redesign of the LCP II magazine, namely the follower. Therefore, if you want the slide to lock back, you need to use the magazines that were made specifically for the LCP II. I remember the first time I saw a Ruger LCP in person. He is fortunate enough to have access to class 3 weaponry as well. It covers the trigger guard of the pistol and has a hook and sticky material to stay secure in your pocket so it is easy to draw the pistol from your … For more than 70 years, Ruger has been a model of corporate and community responsibility. The LCP II is the ultimate pocket carry gun. In a larger sense, the Ruger LCP II is the embodiment of a particular class of CCW pistols: the pocket .380. They are meant to be defensive arms that can be easily carried in the pocket. Fit and finish were very good, as it was with the original LCP. The frames of the guns are almost identical, with all of the upgrades being internal except for the sights. After becoming aware of this, I tried the pistol both ungloved and then with having modified the position of my gloved finger on the trigger. The company has significantly improved this … One thing that was not improved over the original LCP, however, is the sights. The rear of the grip may be only slightly different, but the LCPII is more comfortable to shoot than the LCP. Ruger’s LCP was a genre-defining handgun that led to an explosion of .380 ACP pistols on the market.