Has anyone had a chance to compare side by side the new CZ p10s to the HK vp9sk? The RAMI is kind of a chopped version of the CZ 40B. -CZ designed the mechanics of the gun around the CZ-75, but DAO-Colt unveiled some type of smart gun tech using the Colt Z40. A place for responsible gun owners and enthusiasts to talk about guns without the politics. What are the pros and cons when comparing a Glock, a Sig and an HK? i have the MK25 and the nickel rail 1911 and i love them. I expect that the HK would be more reliable in the long run, because HK, but the P-07 is no slouch. Good to know, thank you. I wonder if something changed with these new models. Gun owners did not like this at all and the Z40 was the collateral damage - Colt dropped the design-CZ kept it and eventually the smaller RAMI was produced. Apr 21, 2018 Is that a sign they are discontinuing BD? Reactions: DarthFett. Beta testing a Sig MPX holds zero interest for me. ... You should check out the Hk p30sk. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. They both came with the hooded front sight, "popsicle" stick rear sight and "Sig red dot" sight, oh and "Sig … Officer frame 1911 pistols, the CZ 75 Compact or PCR, the Sig P320 Compact and so on, so forth, ad infinitum. Or you could wait to see if those Zastava rumors are true and they start importing their pistols under their own name and you get a modernized Tokarev. Not really a fan of M&P's or most other poly pistols. Rami won't fail you, break it's firing pin after a short time, and screw you over waiting on a fix under warranty. Thanks. 2 years ago. My primary purpose for shopping was to get a new carry pistol. A forum community dedicated to SIG Sauer Pistols and SIG Sauer Rifles owners and enthusiasts. That said, let's get into the VP9 vs. Sig P320. The trigger is a bit spongy and always gives me the impression of plastic rubbing on plastic. The weight comes in around 5.5 to 6 lbs. The ST2 is currently off having the CZ custom shop accu bushing installed. If you wait glock is releasing their 43x which holds 10 now. I've always been a fan of the CZ 75 sp01/p01 and so i thought it would be a cool gun to add to the collection. I would want to put wood grips on it because nothing is more sexy than a blued gun with wood grips, You should check out the Hk p30sk. S&W SD9VE This striker-fired pistol is a great option for anyone looking to find a reliable firearm that is also budget-friendly. Jason November 11, 2013 At 10:46. But with a Hillary presidency looming a German HK is probably a good investment. Opinions on CZ 75 SP-01 vs HK VP9 I've shot quite a few handguns over the past few weeks and have narrowed down my choices to either a VP9 or a CZ 75. CZ Rami or Sig P365? The Sig 229’s double action comes in at around 10 pounds and the single action is about 4.5 pounds. 2. share. sig 556 vs hk93. I'm not going to speak to any reliability tests or anything of the sort on which is better because that's the internet equivalent of walking into a bar of college football fans and shouting "War Eagle!" I am sticking to my RAMI. I don't own a USP but shot one a few times. You will be able to sell it down the road for at least the same you got it for. The ease that the gun can be made into a 9mm, .357 Sig or a .40 for not a lot of money is a bonus IMO. So long as a pistol functions and can be field stripped without drawing blood, any additional interior polishing is just a waste. Sig Sauer is probably best known for its P320, the official sidearm of the United States Army, and the Marine Corps. I know CZ is a good brand and definitely retains value. Performance between the two was a wash, with both being more than "good enough." As previous people have mentioned, if you want a short stroke piston AR-15, then I would go with the 416. Here are a few key differences on the Shadow 2 vs the original Shadow: Barrel is longer at 4.89″ vs 4.61″ 1/2lb heavier at 2.9lbs vs 2.4lbs; OAL is 8.53″ vs 8.15″ Curiously, the magazines that ship with the Shadow 2 are 17rnd vs 18rnd for the old Shadow. : HK P30 VS Sig P320 or P250. It is a good shooter and good carry with proper kydex holster and belt. oooh a g43x? For those who think otherwise, lets compare HK and Sigs latest offerings. Reliability of the CZ with the poly benefit of the glock/sig area. I get it's not ALL P365s with this issue, but when the issue is common enough that every other person bitches about it on a gun you will likely depend on for your life, I honestly feel like taking chances is the idiotic approach. Well, I haven't heard of Ramis having any problems, which is quite the opposite for the 365 this past year... Also hold the Rami first (and ideally shoot it), it feels like a fairly unique grip to me and you may not even like it. RAMI. definitely not for concealed carry though. When I was younger without a bunch of disposable income I always admired the HK's. In summer I carry a Sig P938 Legion because it’s small and a fun shooter. But, about 45 days ago I acquired a Sig 556. Apparently HK has gotten their customer service act together and they are great to deal with and sell P30 mags for $30 to $35 so I think HK45c should be close to sig branded P220 mags at $40 to $45. Since he took over SIG has introduced their 1911, the 250, AR platform rifles the MPX and more. OP, I would recommend looking at a full size. Interesting, the p10c I shot had a reset on it that was almost as short as my PPQ which was definitely shorter than the standard VP9. “Better” is kind of too simplistic for this scenario, as they are basically two different weapons entirely. They are already ridiculously hard to find as is. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. however, the sig P365 is pretty hot right now and i've been tempted to get it. I think that's what I'm gonna go with. I've heard of lots of breakages on P220 though and sig is the only source for parts. I shoot my RAMI much better. Not exactly a bantamweight fighter, the VP9SK has roots going back to the beginning of the polymer pistol era. Reply. I bought the 19x last year and i love it. The Glock provides a consistent pull every time, with every trigger pull. Rami. My strong preference is for the Full size MP5. My phantom had the 19 Rd magazines but one on held 18. Very reliable and the extended mag with the pinky rest is perfect. Sig's QC is somewhere between pot-luck and deliberatly shitty hoping the sucker who buys it will simply re-sell instead of returning it. The reset on my VP9 is everybit as short as my PPQ's and shorter than either of the P10's I've shot. By. i like the cz because they are well made and its steel. Reliability of the CZ with the poly benefit of the glock/sig area. I have a few Sig's now that I'm older and a German frame 226 is one of them. It’s always the same. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Two of the biggest names in the self-defense industry are Sig Sauer and HK. Now, if we break it down as my preference based on what they are (Sub compact 9mm) and what functionally makes them different, I'll take a hammer-fired gun with a de-cocker 12 times out of 10 for a carry piece, but that's my preferrence. Reply. The SIG P320 is also now available in the M-17 civilian model, making it a popular choice for former U.S. Army service members who are familiar with the military-issued handgun. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Sig Sauer has enjoyed a great reputation for many years, and for most of that time, this reputation was well-deserved. I have a Atlantic MP5K, a Zenith Z5RS fullsize, and a CZ Scorpion. It suppresses best and is the most ergonomic. I heard the bd has the decocker. If you want something steel and subcompact there is always those Micro 1911's that people like Sig make. I'd wait a while until the hiccups are resolved on the P365 before taking any risks. The topic is sig gun vs hk gun which would you choose so it seems your opinion is not relevant to the conversation. Comparison between these two compact polymer handguns under $500 from Sig Sauer and CZ. I've owned maybe half a dozen, still own my first one, an HK dated example. The HK is more polished than the CZ. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! level 1. 6 0 0. By introducing the VP70, HK became the first manufacturer to introduce a polymer-framed, striker-fired pistol to the market. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 17 of 17 Posts. wanting to get a different ccw with my next quarterly bonus and cant decide which to get. Now a tokarev would be sweet. Very reliable and the extended mag with the pinky rest is perfect. If it where up to me I’d get 2 CZ p07’s for the price of either of those. The 952-1 is still the most accurate, the 210A next, and I'd say the TSO is next with the Shadow Target 2 coming in last place. I was watching Future Weapons the other night and they featured the HK 416 as the ultimate future battle rifle.