Here in Germany the price difference is about 100 € / 150 $, Mags fr the Hk are twice the PMag price. These guns both work great. I have never owned a HK, so I can't comment on that one. The ergonomics of the HK P30 and HK 45 are excellent. :rofl: The search for the "best" handgun would not be limited to merely these two mostly overrated handgun lines. Walther PPQ vs. HK VP9 vs. SIG P320 – Content Contest. I've owned all three (sold the HK) and each is a fine pistol. These guns both work great. Guys I am looking for some advice. Sigs factory SRT triggers are a force to be reckoned with. Suite 500, Troy, Michigan 48084 USA. WhatsApp (This post is an entry in our spring content contest. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. Both are DA/SA with de-cockers (same manual of arms). Manufacturer: Sig Sauer. You already have a Sig P229 for daily carry and both guns you mentioned are pretty close in size to it. This video shows some differences with these excellent gun makers. The gun just felt large and clumsy to me. I used to carry a Sig P228 but I switched to a Glock 26 (and now Kahr PM9). I'd be curious about what the heck this person means that the USP compact has an "HK EXPERT barrel".... Not really. I don't like any factory HK trigger. Presently own several SIG's; the German models are better, IMO, than the US models. I have Sigs, I use to hold them highly, I still do, after getting a P30 I have more respect for HK. That's the one question I'm waiting on an answer for right now. : HK P30 VS Sig P320 or P250. Compare the dimensions and specs of Heckler & Koch VP9 and Sig Sauer P226 Full Size I personally like the trigger on the HK vs. the Sigs I have looked at. Hands down sig. The USP (depending on the variant) is going to be more like the Sig P229 with the DA/SA trigger. 26 comments. The 40S&W model weighs 26.8 oz (slightly more than the 9mm model). Glock vs SIG: Geometry and Current Events. :rofl: The search for the "best" handgun would not be limited to merely these two mostly overrated handgun lines. SIG makes a lot of good guns but I dislike the SIG Pro. The long heavy DA trigger pull makes me tend to pull right. This video shows some differences with these excellent gun makers. Not everyone wants a Glock for one reason or another but want a striker fired handgun with similar capacity and overall capabilities. I see two great products that you choose the platform that best for your tastes and application. I dislike the HK USP a little less. Tough one. Sig's QC is somewhere between pot-luck and deliberatly shitty hoping the sucker who buys it will simply re-sell instead of returning it. Just recently purchased and love it. If you could choose your first handgun between HK p2000 or the Sig p226 which would you choose? The Sig is quite new to the market… Would the fact that the gun was built in 1999 and has only 150 rounds through it have any effect on your decision? Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 3290 W. Big Beaver Rd. Sig has always come out on top for me and always will. share. The HK decocker drops the hammer hard on the safety block and make a loud 'clack'. I like both Sigs and HKs. If you held a Lorcin to my head I'd say that at least SIG has 'been there and done that" outside of video games, laboratories, and the training grounds of forces who don't fight. Explain why you feel your choice is the better of the two. I expected the QC thing to come up for sig. I like LEM (light) better than DAK, the DA/SA of the regular Exeter guns and the DA/SA off of HK are both nothing to write home about, SRT on the Exeter SIGs is "better" than HK and the non-SRT Exeter guns, but the German SIGs DA/SA is even better, and miles ahead of HK and the standard Exeter trigger. Sig P320 if you want a incredable and versatile Strikerfire. The thing is that striker fired pistols have the same consistent trigger pull from shot to shot and almost always have a lighter trigger pull than a DA trigger. The deal is the gun with all original goodies as new and 200 rds of mixed HP/Target ammo and 3 HK mags. I've already gone through that Sig vs HK thing. Sigs factory SRT triggers are a force to be reckoned with. I was wondering how long into the thread it would take before this statement wormed its way into the discussion. Lasted a few years. I say Sig Sauer all the way man. Sig Vs. HK. By introducing the VP70, HK became the first manufacturer to introduce a polymer-framed, striker-fired pistol to the market. John I found all three to be equal in durability, accuracy, and capacity (as equal as my highly non-scientific methodology allows). Both sig and hk make awesome guns. Sig vs HK If he likes them both, he should go with the one that fits his hand best. Both are great guns, just different. I haven't had a chance to handle the P320 so I can't speak on that. 106. HK is anal about QC. I'm a HK fanboy, therefore lean that way, but in this case $750 for an older USPc is too much IMHO. While both Sig and H&K have decent DA triggers, it is not my preferred trigger type for carry. Dan Zimmerman - April 21, 2017. I'd pass and wait to see the new P30sk which is supposed to be about the same money. Today we compare 3 of the best striker fired 9mms ever created. Both are great and I don't think you would go wrong with either one. Sig P320 if you want a incredable and versatile Strikerfire. I own a Sig, my cousin has an HK USP I shoot them back to back and love 'em both. Close. Joined: Jun 19, 2004 Messages: 1,131. If its a older gun with night sights, the glow intensity may be very low. Trigger: Striker-Fired. Honestly, both are great. I have close to 1000 rounds through it. HKs have a very loyal fan base (often referred to as HK Snobs) in a joking manner to reflect the high cost of HK firearms, especially when comparing similar pistols from other manufacturers. I see no way he can go wrong. What are your opinions on who makes the best handgun (between Sig-Sauer and Hk). I had a usp compact 45 and my duty gun is a sig 229 in 40cal. Pictured below: P226ST 9mm and P2000 V3 9mm. I don't even know why. I like them all; love the X-Series models. I could never get used to HK's triggers. While it didn’t exactly check all the boxes at the time, HK has come full circle with other polymer models such as the VP9SK to try to perfect the modern striker-fired pistol. Notes. I don't even know why. I currently have a Sig 229, but it is also of the .40 cal variety. hk-usa.com . I will like to add, Sig runs higher end competition piston line. My opinion is based on the specific variants of the USP and 226 that are single/double action with decockers. It is about accuracy. Sig vs HK. Other than that, it was superb. I don't like any factory HK trigger. I am interested in a 9mm for my first gun and am looking at the Sig p229 and the HK USP. I have read time and time again that many consider the Glock 19 to be one of the best "all around" pistols out there. Taiwan born, Chinese descent, red white and freaking blue America citizen. I have not shot the HK45, but I have shot a friend's USP45, and I didn't care for it. And I do like hk for quality of build. “Better” is kind of too simplistic for this scenario, as they are basically two different weapons entirely. Only hk hates me, even though I've got the scramble. Pinterest. I've already gone through that Sig vs HK thing. The grip-to-frame angle of the Glock approximates that of the P08 Luger, while the geometry of the SIG P320 is closer to that of the 1911. Theres no denying the Glock series of pistols are some of the most reliable toughest handguns on the market. Not exactly a bantamweight fighter, the VP9SK has roots going back to the beginning of the polymer pistol era. The Sig was a bit heavier, had a magazine disconnect, a Short Reset Trigger, and night sights. What are the pros and cons when comparing a Glock, a Sig and an HK? Make sure the mags are hi cap. I have heard too many negative stories about HK customer service. I know under duress, the trigger will feel like nothing and increasing the trigger pull speed will make the trigger feel much lighter. I have had HK do some custom work on my guns and they are outstanding. Sig has always come out on top for me and always will. save hide report. Input is greatly appreciated. Sig 220 I would choose the Sig 220. The HK VP9, Sig Sauer P320, and the Walther PPQ. You can't beat a Sig, unless it was made in Exeter. For the record, I am biased. Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by JLStorm, Dec 20, 2006. JavaScript is disabled. But I trust QC of HK more so the Sig. One of the best triggers in DA/SA if not the best out there. What are the pros and cons when comparing a Glock, a Sig and an HK? With the “subcompact” designatio… 4. Official Url: www.sigsauer.com . Explain why you feel your choice is the better of the two. Well, if you're looking for a good striker-fired pistol, the HK VP9 is outstanding. HK are just pure awesomeness, but their triggers suck. The only thing HK has over Sig is the weight being lighter. Log in or sign up to leave a comment log in sign up. Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-handgu...ver-years.html. Twitter. Some people bash Sigs customer service but I have had no issues with them. I didn't care for the double action pull of the HK that much but the single action was nice. I compared both in 9 mm. I have a few USPc. If the gun is old enough, it may have Clinton mags. You will get at least 2-3 pages of posts though. I didn't care for the double action pull of the HK that much but the single action was nice. Sig vs HK. Model: P320 XCompact. For the trigger alone. I currently use an HK which I love, but I have a friend who is debating between HK and Sig. Hi cap mags are not cheap for this gun. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! That being said, I would be left to compare the Glock vs. Sig. The USP Expert is longer than the full size USP, so is he saying the the barrel has been chopped down to fit in a compact. As previous people have mentioned, if you want a short stroke piston AR-15, then I would go with the 416. Does anyone prefer the trigger of the USP or like Hk models to the sig P series trigger? For those who think otherwise, lets compare HK and Sigs latest offerings. Well, depending on what level of products you are comparing. 100% Upvoted. In fact HK did release changes to the USP line over the years. The only thing HK has over Sig is the weight being lighter. June 17, 2020 7:00:00 AM PDT I haven't really shot a plastic gun that I've liked, (and I've shot most of them, the FN and XD being the notable exceptions) except, believe it or not, the Taurus 24-7 which, although I had already decided not to like it, was a real pleasant surprise. What are your opinions on who makes the best handgun (between Sig-Sauer and Hk). Heckler & Koch P30 The P30 comes in other trigger options, not just DA/SA. HK if you want a light weight DA/SA. Owned a H&K P30s, worst trigger I ever used, I think (at 77 I've pullled a bunch of triggers). Posted by 1 month ago. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. Both are better than average and are mostly worth the extra money they cost. The Sig decocker is superior IMO to the HK decocker, that is it's nearly silent, and you can ease the hammer down to the DA position. The differences between Glock and SIG guns all boil down to personal preferences. Facebook. Plus, their mags are usually expensive and availability is an issue. I also kind of liked the looks of the beaver tail, which may actually not be so good an idea for carry. I like the trigger pull on the HK USP better than the Sig. German made Sigs are the best you can get for the money spent. By. Sort by. The Hk has a better reputation here. I own a HK P30 V3 DA/SA. I say Sig Sauer all the way man. I don't really see this as a who's better. Both companies are German and produce excellent firearms. Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 Next > JLStorm Member. Veteran, 2008 Les Baer box thread campaign. Lasted a few years. I love Sigs, so that would be my choice. I had a usp compact 45 and my duty gun is a sig 229 in 40cal. I did own a Glock 23 and 32, but never a 19. Sig Sauer P365 10 round extended magazine height: 4.5"; 12 round extended magazine height: 4.7"; 15 round extended magazine height: 5.5"; Heckler & Koch P30SK If he sees no difference there, flip a coin. I think the most important question should be "What do you intend to use it for?" Either or will suffice, you will not ever get any where near a defined answer to this question on this forum. It won't be fare if you compare P30 to Sig Pro or USP vs P226 X-5. HK VP9SK vs Sig P365: Face Off Of The Compact Double Stacks. Mostly I guess I'm asking if your talking service type pistols, like the USP & p30 Vs. 220, 228, 229 and 226 non-xseries Sigs. The HK was lighter, easier to rack, had a bobbed hammer, and no magazine disconnect. I own a Sig 220. Compare the dimensions and specs of Heckler & Koch VP9SK and Sig Sauer P365 XL For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. $750. The SA trigger pull on the P30 is great, especially after you put some rounds through it. The USP Compact may have the edge for a carry gun, but I recently bought a Sig P229 Enhanced Elite. Let's dive into the top 4 … Sig is just as good so both companies have great support and even custom shop work. That said, I choose the SIG. Sig P226 vs HK P30. Sig Sauer P320 XCompact . Sigs also their own loyal users, which is probably larger than HK but slightly less fiercely loyal.